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Pat Moyles
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:46:33 PM

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County Matches.
The county matches have become farcical. There are far too many matches on the day. You can play up to five matches on one day. B teams can play twice, then two senior matches as well as having to play their own senior team.
This completely disrupts your strategy as a captain. One minute players are playing B team frames then senior frames and no one knows what the scores are. By the end you just cannot wait to get away from the venue.Players go for a smoke or to the toilet or keep mentioning they have to go by such a time, while another match is put on in it's place making a mockery of writing down any sort of order.
I understand that this season will be like this as it is too late to change.
Next season A matches must be played out and seniors A play Seniors A only afterwards. B team matches are played and there is no B2 teams but C teams, then B teams play seniors B only.
Two matches maximum must be the limit.Otherwise we will be endangering the prospect of players leaving Blackball after we have so desperately tried to recruit them.

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Terry Allen
#2 Posted : Monday, June 21, 2010 12:07:30 PM
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Pat, valid point well made.

Is it worth staggering the start times in the interim, starting the A's at 12:00, and the B's at 14:00 This would enable up to 3 tables to be used for some matches, I realise the constitution/template requires only 2 tables to be made available for each match.

The downside to this would be if players were in the Men’s A and Seniors B or vice versa, they'd still have to be there at 12:00

And with the situation of B1/B2 teams, starting at 14:00 could still make for a long day.

You could still end up playing up to 16 frames in a day, (3 B vs B1, 3 B vs B2, 5 Snr A vs Snr A, 5 Snr A vs Snr B), being made logistically worse if both teams had 2 B teams)

We would need agreement from all teams that once a match is in progress, all practice tables are secondary to the main event. Players should use their common sense when it comes to breaks and practice, if you must pop out for whatever reason, inform the captain / vice captain or someone so you can be found quickly, if you're practicing when you are called to a table leave immediately rather than at the end of the frame, we cannot issue penalties for failure to comply, as you have pointed out, the season has already started, and the constitution / template is already in place, and it's treating everyone as irresponsible even if they had legitimate reasons, you will however find that most of the people who give the captains grief are the ones that disappear most frequently. In summary, cut out the wasted time and the whole process should run much smoother, all players that want to get away on time need to buy-into this, and for those that don't, please respect your teammates that do.

Suggestion:
12:00 Men’s A (3 tables if available) + practice tables for early arrivals
13:00 Ladies (2/3 tables), Seniors A vs Seniors A (2/3 tables)
14:00 Men’s B B1 vs B1 (2 tables), Men’s B B2 vs B2 (2 tables), Seniors B vs Seniors A (2 tables)
15:00 Youths (2/3 tables), Seniors A vs Seniors B (2/3 tables)
16:00 Men’s B B1 vs B2 (2 tables), Men’s B B2 vs B1 (2 tables), Seniors B vs Seniors B (2 tables)
17:00 collapse

All times to be moved back 1 hour if away team has to travel more than 50 miles.

I welcome comments from all sides, committee, captains and players.

Terry
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#3 Posted : Monday, June 28, 2010 5:27:42 PM

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In the Central Region we play Mens A, B, C and Ladies one weekend, then 2 weeks later we play Seniors and Youths matches, maybe this is the way forward for your region ?
The Red Monkey
#4 Posted : Monday, June 28, 2010 8:55:45 PM

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Surely playing in one team only is the answer?

Are the schedules done at Selsey so there are no clashes between categories
at the same time? ie Seniors at one time and B later? Otherwise when it comes to
Selsey it will be a logistical nightmare and some players will be forced to
decide between the different teams.

Don't like the idea of seperate days unless the venues are small, the kids need
to play on the same day as the A and B teams as these should be the players
that they aspire to become and treating them as second class is not the way
forward.
Pat Moyles
#5 Posted : Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:13:59 PM

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Have to keep it simple.
A team plays A team.
B team plays B team.
C team plays C team.
Ladies play ladies.
Juniors play juniors.
Senior A play Senior A.
Senior B play Senior B.

No player can take part in more than two matches on the day.

Easy.Confused
Ian Mildren
#6 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:09:25 PM

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playing it over 2 weekends can be expensive for all concerned, we also have to take into account the superleague and tournaments a lot of players enter. i think it would be a better idea to limit a player to only 1 team i.e A team nothing else.. also can someone explain to me what B1/B2 is all about please.
many thanks
Confused
Jenny Leavens
#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:05:13 PM

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Ian, B1 is actually the B team and B2 is the C team!! Easy really!!
brizzle clive
#8 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 7:50:30 AM

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So can they not just be called B and C then??? Even easier perhaps?? Blushing
asyougo
#9 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 3:06:00 PM

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CAN ANYONE LET ME KNOW FOR FACT. IF A COUNTY HAS 2 LADIES TEAMS CAN THEY SWAP BETWEEN TEAMS AS THEY WISH THANKS
Yoda
#10 Posted : Monday, August 09, 2010 11:05:21 AM

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In the Mens set up I understand that a standard player can play two matches up or down for his county but internationals can only play for the A side. I guess that a similar thing applies for the Ladies.
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